Friday Evening Open Friday Eve Session October 14, 2016 Scores after 8 rounds Average: 84.0 Section A North-South Pair Pct Score Section Rank MPs A B C 1 53.36 89.65 B 4 1 0.40(B) Tom Jolliffe - Bruce Moor 2 63.01 105.86 A 1 1.00(A) M Potter - Eva Good 3 47.88 80.43 A Susan Edwards - Al Edwards 4 45.63 76.65 B Henry Przysiezny - Virginia Przysiezny 5 49.91 83.85 B 2 0.28(B) Peter Maurice - Ed Carroll 7 54.94 92.30 A 3 0.50(A) Roman Dubinski - Leszek Wroblewski 8 56.34 94.65 A 2 0.70(A) Marlene Benny - Ruth Edwards 9 38.21 64.20 C Bryan Miller - Antonia Lorelli 10 40.73 68.42 C 1 0.12(C) Susan Kime - Elaine Winder Friday Evening Open Friday Eve Session October 14, 2016 Scores after 8 rounds Average: 84.0 Section A East-West Pair Pct Score Section Rank MPs A B C 1 33.75 56.70 C Elizabeth Van Asselt - Kees Van Asselt 2 41.98 70.53 B James Jordan - Sue Jordan 3 44.55 74.85 C Janet Caskey - James Caskey 4 47.23 79.35 B Sheila Elston - Anne Reilly 5 42.71 71.75 C Linda Ritchie - Scott Ritchie 6 65.74 110.45 A 2 0.70(A) Janine Higgins - Marie Wiley 7 67.01 112.58 C 1 1 1 1.00(A) Anna Adamus - Janusz Adamus 8 47.72 80.17 C 4 0.25(B) Norma Masterson - Heather Foster 9 49.90 83.83 C 4 3 2 0.36(B) Don White - Pat White 10 59.29 99.61 B 3 2 0.50(A) Bill Hryniw - Susan Wark RESULTS OF BOARD 1 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 140 4.07 2.93 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 150 2.36 4.64 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 6-Higgins-Wiley 400 0.64 6.36 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 8-Masterson-Foster 50 6.36 0.64 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 3-Caskey-Caskey 50 6.36 0.64 8-Benny-Edwards vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 400 0.64 6.36 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 140 4.07 2.93 10-Kime-Winder vs 9-White-White ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 2 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 110 1.79 5.21 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 110 1.79 5.21 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 6-Higgins-Wiley 50 4.64 2.36 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 8-Masterson-Foster 100 6.36 0.64 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 3-Caskey-Caskey 90 3.50 3.50 8-Benny-Edwards vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 150 0.07 6.93 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 100 6.36 0.64 10-Kime-Winder vs 9-White-White ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 3 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 100 6.36 0.64 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 620 1.21 5.79 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 6-Higgins-Wiley 200 2.36 4.64 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 8-Masterson-Foster 170 4.07 2.93 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 3-Caskey-Caskey 170 4.07 2.93 8-Benny-Edwards vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 650 0.07 6.93 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 100 6.36 0.64 10-Kime-Winder vs 9-White-White ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 4 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 650 4.07 2.93 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 10-Hryniw-Wark 1430 6.93 0.07 2-Potter-Good vs 2-Jordan-Jordan 200 1.21 5.79 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 680 5.79 1.21 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 620 2.36 4.64 8-Benny-Edwards vs 4-Elston-Reilly 100 0.07 6.93 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 6-Higgins-Wiley 650 4.07 2.93 10-Kime-Winder vs 8-Masterson-Foster ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 5 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 140 4.64 2.36 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 10-Hryniw-Wark 150 6.93 0.07 2-Potter-Good vs 2-Jordan-Jordan 450 0.64 6.36 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 50 5.79 1.21 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 420 2.93 4.07 8-Benny-Edwards vs 4-Elston-Reilly 420 2.93 4.07 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 6-Higgins-Wiley 450 0.64 6.36 10-Kime-Winder vs 8-Masterson-Foster ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 6 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 110 5.21 1.79 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 10-Hryniw-Wark 200 6.93 0.07 2-Potter-Good vs 2-Jordan-Jordan 110 5.21 1.79 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 90 3.50 3.50 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 50 1.21 5.79 8-Benny-Edwards vs 4-Elston-Reilly 50 1.21 5.79 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 6-Higgins-Wiley 50 1.21 5.79 10-Kime-Winder vs 8-Masterson-Foster ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 7 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 200 0.07 6.93 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 9-White-White 630 4.64 2.36 2-Potter-Good vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 630 4.64 2.36 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 3-Caskey-Caskey 630 4.64 2.36 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 10-Hryniw-Wark 630 4.64 2.36 8-Benny-Edwards vs 2-Jordan-Jordan 240 1.21 5.79 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 630 4.64 2.36 10-Kime-Winder vs 7-Adamus-Adamus ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 8 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 450 2.36 4.64 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 9-White-White 50 6.93 0.07 2-Potter-Good vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 420 4.64 2.36 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 3-Caskey-Caskey 590 0.07 6.93 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 10-Hryniw-Wark 450 2.36 4.64 8-Benny-Edwards vs 2-Jordan-Jordan 300 5.79 1.21 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 450 2.36 4.64 10-Kime-Winder vs 7-Adamus-Adamus ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 9 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 1430 1.21 5.79 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 9-White-White 680 4.64 2.36 2-Potter-Good vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 50 6.93 0.07 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 3-Caskey-Caskey 1430 1.21 5.79 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 10-Hryniw-Wark 800 3.50 3.50 8-Benny-Edwards vs 2-Jordan-Jordan 200 5.79 1.21 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 1430 1.21 5.79 10-Kime-Winder vs 7-Adamus-Adamus ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 10 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 650 0.00 7.00 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 8-Masterson-Foster 680 3.00 4.00 2-Potter-Good vs 10-Hryniw-Wark 680 3.00 4.00 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 2-Jordan-Jordan 680 3.00 4.00 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 4-Elston-Reilly 680 3.00 4.00 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 9-White-White 1430 7.00 0.00 8-Benny-Edwards vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 710 6.00 1.00 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 3-Caskey-Caskey 680 3.00 4.00 10-Kime-Winder vs 6-Higgins-Wiley ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 11 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 450 5.00 2.00 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 8-Masterson-Foster 450 5.00 2.00 2-Potter-Good vs 10-Hryniw-Wark 450 5.00 2.00 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 2-Jordan-Jordan 420 1.00 6.00 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 4-Elston-Reilly 450 5.00 2.00 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 9-White-White 450 5.00 2.00 8-Benny-Edwards vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 420 1.00 6.00 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 3-Caskey-Caskey 420 1.00 6.00 10-Kime-Winder vs 6-Higgins-Wiley ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 12 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 620 2.00 5.00 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 8-Masterson-Foster 650 4.50 2.50 2-Potter-Good vs 10-Hryniw-Wark 680 6.50 0.50 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 2-Jordan-Jordan 630 3.00 4.00 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 4-Elston-Reilly 650 4.50 2.50 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 9-White-White 680 6.50 0.50 8-Benny-Edwards vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 200 0.50 6.50 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 3-Caskey-Caskey 200 0.50 6.50 10-Kime-Winder vs 6-Higgins-Wiley ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 13 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 200 0.50 6.50 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 200 0.50 6.50 2-Potter-Good vs 9-White-White 620 6.50 0.50 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 620 6.50 0.50 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 3-Caskey-Caskey 150 4.00 3.00 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 100 2.50 4.50 8-Benny-Edwards vs 10-Hryniw-Wark 100 2.50 4.50 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 2-Jordan-Jordan 170 5.00 2.00 10-Kime-Winder vs 4-Elston-Reilly ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 14 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 100 6.00 1.00 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 100 6.00 1.00 2-Potter-Good vs 9-White-White 110 0.00 7.00 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 100 6.00 1.00 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 3-Caskey-Caskey 90 1.50 5.50 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 50 3.50 3.50 8-Benny-Edwards vs 10-Hryniw-Wark 50 3.50 3.50 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 2-Jordan-Jordan 90 1.50 5.50 10-Kime-Winder vs 4-Elston-Reilly ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 15 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 620 4.00 3.00 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 100 1.00 6.00 2-Potter-Good vs 9-White-White 100 1.00 6.00 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 100 1.00 6.00 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 3-Caskey-Caskey 630 6.00 1.00 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 630 6.00 1.00 8-Benny-Edwards vs 10-Hryniw-Wark 630 6.00 1.00 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 2-Jordan-Jordan 180 3.00 4.00 10-Kime-Winder vs 4-Elston-Reilly ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 16 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 690 1.79 5.21 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 100 6.93 0.07 2-Potter-Good vs 8-Masterson-Foster 1370 0.07 6.93 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 10-Hryniw-Wark 660 3.50 3.50 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 2-Jordan-Jordan 630 4.64 2.36 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 4-Elston-Reilly 620 5.79 1.21 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 690 1.79 5.21 10-Kime-Winder vs 3-Caskey-Caskey ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 17 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 400 6.36 0.64 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 400 6.36 0.64 2-Potter-Good vs 8-Masterson-Foster 630 0.07 6.93 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 10-Hryniw-Wark 170 2.36 4.64 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 2-Jordan-Jordan 300 4.64 2.36 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 4-Elston-Reilly 300 1.21 5.79 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 50 3.50 3.50 10-Kime-Winder vs 3-Caskey-Caskey ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 18 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 110 2.93 4.07 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 100 4.64 2.36 2-Potter-Good vs 8-Masterson-Foster 110 2.93 4.07 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 10-Hryniw-Wark 50 5.79 1.21 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 2-Jordan-Jordan 100 6.93 0.07 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 4-Elston-Reilly 200 0.64 6.36 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 200 0.64 6.36 10-Kime-Winder vs 3-Caskey-Caskey ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 19 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 170 5.21 1.79 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 4-Elston-Reilly 650 1.79 5.21 2-Potter-Good vs 6-Higgins-Wiley 400 6.93 0.07 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 9-White-White 170 5.21 1.79 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 650 1.79 5.21 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 3-Caskey-Caskey 650 1.79 5.21 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 650 1.79 5.21 10-Kime-Winder vs 2-Jordan-Jordan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 20 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 300 6.36 0.64 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 4-Elston-Reilly 100 2.93 4.07 2-Potter-Good vs 6-Higgins-Wiley 110 1.21 5.79 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 9-White-White 300 6.36 0.64 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 630 0.07 6.93 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 3-Caskey-Caskey 100 2.93 4.07 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 200 4.64 2.36 10-Kime-Winder vs 2-Jordan-Jordan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 21 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 50 3.50 3.50 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 4-Elston-Reilly 460 0.07 6.93 2-Potter-Good vs 6-Higgins-Wiley 100 6.36 0.64 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 9-White-White 100 6.36 0.64 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 50 3.50 3.50 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 3-Caskey-Caskey 50 3.50 3.50 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 430 1.21 5.79 10-Kime-Winder vs 2-Jordan-Jordan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 22 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 140 5.79 1.21 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 3-Caskey-Caskey 110 4.64 2.36 2-Potter-Good vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 90 1.79 5.21 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 90 1.79 5.21 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 10-Hryniw-Wark 50 3.50 3.50 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 2-Jordan-Jordan 110 0.07 6.93 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 6-Higgins-Wiley 170 6.93 0.07 8-Benny-Edwards vs 8-Masterson-Foster ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 23 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 120 4.07 2.93 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 3-Caskey-Caskey 180 6.93 0.07 2-Potter-Good vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 110 1.79 5.21 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 90 0.07 6.93 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 10-Hryniw-Wark 120 4.07 2.93 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 2-Jordan-Jordan 150 5.79 1.21 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 6-Higgins-Wiley 110 1.79 5.21 8-Benny-Edwards vs 8-Masterson-Foster ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 24 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 150 6.36 0.64 1-Jolliffe-Moor vs 3-Caskey-Caskey 80 4.64 2.36 2-Potter-Good vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 50 2.93 4.07 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 100 0.64 6.36 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 10-Hryniw-Wark 100 0.64 6.36 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 2-Jordan-Jordan 150 6.36 0.64 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 6-Higgins-Wiley 50 2.93 4.07 8-Benny-Edwards vs 8-Masterson-Foster ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 25 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 420 4.07 2.93 2-Potter-Good vs 4-Elston-Reilly 420 4.07 2.93 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 6-Higgins-Wiley 420 4.07 2.93 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 8-Masterson-Foster 430 6.93 0.07 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 50 0.64 6.36 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 420 4.07 2.93 8-Benny-Edwards vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 50 0.64 6.36 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 9-White-White ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 26 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 620 2.36 4.64 2-Potter-Good vs 4-Elston-Reilly 650 0.07 6.93 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 6-Higgins-Wiley 100 4.64 2.36 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 8-Masterson-Foster 620 2.36 4.64 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 140 6.93 0.07 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 620 2.36 4.64 8-Benny-Edwards vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 100 5.79 1.21 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 9-White-White ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 27 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 130 3.50 3.50 2-Potter-Good vs 4-Elston-Reilly 130 3.50 3.50 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 6-Higgins-Wiley 120 5.79 1.21 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 8-Masterson-Foster 110 6.93 0.07 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 1-Van Asselt-Van Asselt 150 0.64 6.36 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 130 3.50 3.50 8-Benny-Edwards vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 150 0.64 6.36 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 9-White-White ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 28 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 100 6.36 0.64 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 50 2.36 4.64 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 50 2.36 4.64 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 9-White-White 50 2.36 4.64 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 4-Elston-Reilly 100 6.36 0.64 8-Benny-Edwards vs 6-Higgins-Wiley 50 2.36 4.64 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 8-Masterson-Foster 50 2.36 4.64 10-Kime-Winder vs 10-Hryniw-Wark ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 29 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 1390 0.64 6.36 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 1390 0.64 6.36 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 1100 2.36 4.64 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 9-White-White 640 5.21 1.79 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 4-Elston-Reilly 640 5.21 1.79 8-Benny-Edwards vs 6-Higgins-Wiley 640 5.21 1.79 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 8-Masterson-Foster 640 5.21 1.79 10-Kime-Winder vs 10-Hryniw-Wark ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RESULTS OF BOARD 30 SCORES MATCHPOINTS NAMES N-S E-W N-S E-W 150 3.50 3.50 3-Edwards-Edwards vs 5-Ritchie-Ritchie 120 1.21 5.79 4-Przysiezny-Przysiezny vs 7-Adamus-Adamus 450 6.93 0.07 5-Maurice-Carroll vs 9-White-White 200 5.79 1.21 7-Dubinski-Wroblewski vs 4-Elston-Reilly 50 0.07 6.93 8-Benny-Edwards vs 6-Higgins-Wiley 180 4.64 2.36 9-Miller-Lorelli vs 8-Masterson-Foster 140 2.36 4.64 10-Kime-Winder vs 10-Hryniw-Wark ----------------------------------------------------------------------